How long a battery lasts in losing charge

In this mechanical girl article, she explains how to calculate the time it takes a battery to discharge and can no longer turn on the car.

How long does a car battery discharge?

This is the question that many people ask themselves, and they really search the internet and nobody gives a clear and verifiable answer of how long a battery can last to be downloaded. So in this article I will try to answer this popular question.

The battery

The battery is simply an accumulator of electrical energy in direct current, by means of a chemical process.

So, as I said it is a continuous electrical energy accumulator, it has two important work variables, which are:

Capacity: Expressed in Amper hour (A/H) o (Ah)
Working voltage: Expressed in Volts (V)

The working voltage is self-explanatory, it is the voltage that the battery can supply.

The Amper-hour is the amount of current that a battery can supply for one hour until it is discharged. For example, a battery with capacity of 10 Ah, means that theoretically it can give a current of 1 A for 10 h, or 10 A for 1 h.

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I say theoretical because in practice it is not so because the faster a battery is discharged, the more energy is lost by the internal resistance of it. This is why the load capacity in Ah usually goes hand in hand with a time limit and a final voltage that is related to the minimum conditions needed by the battery system. So, for example, for a cell phone the final voltage would be 3.1V, for a car it would be about 10.5V.

How long the battery lasts?

I'm going to give you a fairly simple equation:

Discharge
Time (hours) = (Battery charge in Ah) / (Consumption in Amperes)

Now to explain this equation with data…

We have a 1000 mAh battery, we want to know how long it will take to discharge up to its working voltage limit if 200 mA current is being used. We do the following:

Discharge
Time (hours) = 1000 mAh / 200 mA = 5 h.

Important units. If we use milliampere, both above and below we must use milliamperes.

Here is another example: Battery capacity 3000mA, consumption 1A

Discharge
Time (hours) = 3000 mAh / 1000 mA = 3 h.

As you can see, I took 1A to milliamps so that the equation is coherent.

And what about the batteries for cars?

Many will ask ... but the car batteries are not expressed in Ampere hours, but rather in Maximum Amperes. Of course, because usually the battery for the cars are used only for the start-up and for current peaks that the alternator can not supply (sound equipment with ground floor). The batteries in our vehicles are designed to withstand those enormous peaks of current at the moment of starting, which a normal stationary battery could not supply.

But in these cases we do not have the load data in Ah, how we calculate the download time?

Booking capacity in minutes

Usually with the model and brand of the battery we can go to the manufacturer's page, which will provide us with the following information:

Grupe

Voltage (v)

performance
start 27º C
(amp)

Capacity of
Reserve (min)

22MR - 800

12

800

90

24M - 1100

12

1100

120

The capacity of reserve in minutes is our data of interest. It is the amount of time that the battery can support supplying 25A without the voltage between its terminals falling below 10.5V.

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Knowing this data, we can calculate the capacity in Ah of our battery using this equation:

Ampere hour = (Capacity of reserve in minutes * 25 A) / 60 minutes

An example: for group 22M-800 12V

Ampere hour = (90 min * 25 A) / 60 minutes = 37.5 Ah.

Now with this battery, if we leave our sound equipment on, which uses on average about 8A (normal volume, music without many bass).

Discharge time = 37.5Ah / 8A = 4.68 h => 4 hours 40 minutes

Then in just under 5 hours, we can not hear good music, since the player with less than 10V starts to fail, let alone we can turn on the car.

Capacity of reserve in amps

Some pages can give us is the capacity of reserve expressed in amps, and we can use it directly without doing the transformation. But we must be clear that it is for a final voltage of 10V.

Be very careful with this, since they also usually include the maximum capacity (Voltage 0V) and C20 tests that are at 20 hours. This is the nominal capacity of our battery. These data are not valid for our study.

And well, as you will see, it is very simple to know how long it takes the battery to discharge using the equations that I mentioned. Of course, remember that it is not an exact science because of the problem of the internal resistance of the battery and that it changes with the use of it. But these equations give us a quite acceptable error.

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    • Asked by Alberto
      on 06/30/2019
      Si tengo un carro sin usar, cuánto le dura la batería(batería de gel), lo único que tiene es es la alarma puesta del carro!! Answer:
      Alberto, con alarma y consumo de computador te durará solo de 2 a 3 semanas.
    • Asked by Jose
      on 11/14/2019
      Cuánto me puede durar una batería de 60 amp x 12 v, utilizando un portalámparas de 12v leds 60, la pregunta es cuántas noches de 3 hs de encendida me dura la carga de la batería, es para ir de camping, gracias Answer:
      Que tal Jose, la cuenta es algo como: los 60 led te consumen como 1,2A/h + perdidas asumamos unos 1,35A/h de consumo. Hacemos la cuenta: 60A/h / 1,35A = 44.4 horas de autonomía, casi dos días. Lo que si consigo raro es el dato de 60A/h. Tiene que ser una batería enorme para que dé los 60A/h. Si es de las de 12V de moto o de carritos eléctricos, esas dan desde 6A/h hasta unos 9A/h. En ese caso, debes rehacer los cálculos con ese dato.
    • Asked by a guest
      on 01/29/2020
      Buenas tardes, cuando dura una bateria de 700amp sin usar, solo con la alarma del carro activada, es una bateria normal 22MR Answer:
      Hola, bueno estaría por el orden de 15 días. Con solo led parpadeando y los consumos internos de la alarma y computadora del carro.
    • Asked by alfredo
      on 03/02/2020
      Hola: un vehículo que se usa 1/2 hora semanalmente ¿cuando se dañaría la batería? ¿Se daña más rápido que dándole un uso normal? Gracias Answer:
      Hola Alfredo, mientras en esa media hora se cargue bien la batería, te durará toda la vida útil de la misma. De unos 3 a 5 años, depende de la marca de la batería. Y la batería se daña con el uso normal es cuando no se carga bien y por el calor del motor. Si la batería estuviera en un sitio del carro donde el calor no la afecte duraria igual a como la usas tu. : )
    • Asked by Estiven Zambrano
      on 04/27/2020
      Hola como esta... Quisiera saber porque la batería de mi carro se descarga ... Si de un día para el otro baja la carga... Si llega a cargar dentro de lo normal de 12.40 v en adelante pero al otro día que voy ver baja la carga.. A que se deberá porque la batería es nueva ... Solo esta activada la alarma .... Answer:
      Tienes una fuaga de corriente, o robo de corriente. El ténico que instala las alarmas muchas veces es el culpable de que eso ocurra. Resolver ese problema se basa en medir cuanta corriente se está fugando (si es mas de 100mA es un problema) porque es normal que exista un pequeño consumo. Luego debes ver quien se esta llevando esa corriente.
    • Asked by Octavio hernandez
      on 07/02/2020
      Buena tarde disculpe como saco los Ahr si solo tengo el dato de CR 150min CCA 800A CA 1000A Estoy realizando un proyecto para dar autonomia a un equipo de radio que consume 30 A aprox, a 24 vdc Acorde a la suma de vdc en serie con dos tendria mis 24v , pero como obtendria cuando amA por hora me daria ? Saludos Answer:
      Hola Octavio, tendrias los mismos ampers por hora con las dos conectadas en serie . En teoria esta batería te daría unos 85 Ah (Ojo con solo los datos de CR y CCA no es posible calcular de forma exacta los Ah de la batería), lo que a tus 30A de consumo serian 2:49:48. Pero importante aclararte Octavio que veo que estas usando baterías de carro para dar autonomia a equipos estacionarios. En estos casos, es más económico usar baterias plomo acido que son las adecuadas para eso. Las baterías estacionarias te dan 3 veces el rendimiento en Ah que una bateria para carro y estan diseñadas para aguanar ciclos de carga continua y descargas profundas sin problemas, lo que se traduce en una larga vida útil de hasta 5 o 6 años.

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